what have we done on the tax well, we have raised taxes on capital. we haven't cut the corporate income tax. we haven't done anything on immigration, we have added more regulation. if you want to add an expensive regulation, fine, get rid of one. we have not been thinking of the regulation or tax or spending on growth. listen, given how big the debt is, according to ken rogueoff we are past the red zone where the amount of debt we have is slowing growth. we need to deal with that too. >> we just put $1.3 trillion on. that came out today. small business, the backbone of the economy, they got a big tax hike. i think that's the most regrettable. instead of paying 40% plus 3.8% obama care, i don't think the small business should pay more than 25%. i don't think the large business should pay more than 25%. those are both anti-growth measures from president obama. >> well, we should have free lunches too, larry. look, someone has to pay for government and the reality is you were talking about the past when we had more rapid growth. we did have more rapid gr